"Tell the truth. Just tell the truth. You're human. You make terrible mistakes. You commit sins. Think of it from a religious point of view. He's a religious man. The whole Christian religion is about salvaation and redemption and it's for real. And I really believe that. He really believes that."
And did Rudy's many marriages hurt him in 2008?
"It doesn't help. Sure, I'm sure it hurts to some extent. I don't think that was the critical factor.... when it happens, it's more harmful than when it is years later."
P.S. Rudy cheerfully demurred when asked if he was running for Gov.